MikeGene of Telic Thoughts has a book out – The Design Matrix: A Consilience of Clues. I haven’t read it, nor do I think that it will be all that interesting from a scientific standpoint, so I probably won’t read it. For instance, the “design matrix” is itself described as:
The Design Matrix is a method for assessing a design inference and can help when using the hypothesis of design to guide research. This method is both tentative and open-ended, and can be used by both supporters and critics of intelligent design.
He goes on to describe a version of intelligent design called “front-loading,” which could also be called “pre-programmed” or “theistic” evolution, or even classical deism, in some senses. These ideas certainly appear to be the natural progression from classical theology, in which these thinkers are trying to reconcile their delusional beliefs in a god with the scientific evidence. Kudos to them for trying to reconcile the two, but it still comes off looking a lot like this:








I love the performance video! I recognized the accordionist was playing the theme from Koyanisqaatsi to accompany the fast-motion evolutionary scenario. Hysterical.
And Ince’s explanation of the teleological dimension behind biodiversity is really no more nebulous than any given by the design-theory proponents themselves: “You know, maybe a pushy force. A growy force. A forcy-force force.”
By: Pista Gyerek on December 10, 2007
at 9:25 am
Hi Dan,
I hope you do decide to read the book along with being open-minded to the ideas in the book. You’re clearly a very intelligent guy…. at times more considerate at other times pretty closed-minded. But why just write the book off?
Considering that you were an active member of telicthoughts for awhile you do have some interest in these topics.
And what if Mike is closer to being right than you’re letting on (or willing to consider)? Why let assumptions and preconceived notions cloud your willingness to hear him out…. and maybe learn something in the process?
Just a thought…..
Take care, Dan.
By: Doug on December 27, 2007
at 2:01 pm
And what might I learn that I couldn’t learn from some other treatise of classical deism?
By: Dan on December 27, 2007
at 3:44 pm
You’ll have to read the book to find out :)
Actually,
you also might want to read Menuge’s book “Agents Under Fire”. It will help you see why your materialistic position is flawed. THEN you should read the Design Matrix.
By: Doug on December 29, 2007
at 5:31 pm
You misunderstand. I’m not interested in deism or natural theology at all. I’m interested in the more parsimonious explanation that known neurological and psychological processes explain the hyperactive agency detector.
Nick Matzke hit the nail on the head in his recent comment on Telic Thoughts: MikeGene smells of unparsimonious wishful-thinking, much like all of the strained logic of deism and natural theology.
By: Dan on December 30, 2007
at 11:54 am
For completeness, I also took a few minutes to look up descriptions of Menuge and his book – not flattering in my opinion. For instance, before even getting to his criticisms of Menuge, Luke Jerzykiewicz explains the central message:
Various reviewers who are knowledgeable on science point out that he fails to acknowledge or discuss emergent properties, and either misrepresents the practice of science, or misunderstands it (which is glaringly obvious by the end of that quote). MikeGene certainly appears to outdo Menuge in this respect, as he concedes that his position fails as science by falsifiability and parsimony criteria.
By: Dan on January 1, 2008
at 2:41 am
So you haven’t actually read the book?
By: FFK on January 13, 2009
at 12:58 am
Nope. Please see my explanations in the comments above.
By: Dan on January 14, 2009
at 8:02 pm